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    December 04, 2007

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    Scott Goodson

    I agree with Ian. However, the challange for digital companies, or anyone for that matter, is to demonstrate that they know how to lead brand strategy. It's a very different culture to deliver strategic excellence over time, guiding clients and many different people, building a brand along a red thread for many years vs tactical assignments. When StrawberryFrog launched Asics Tiger we launched it from scratch 6 years ago. Today they are a global brand with 400M pairs of shoes sold. I think you grow by having done it many times, making mistakes, and learning.

    Tom Ajello

    "the challange for digital companies, or anyone for that matter, is to demonstrate that they know how to lead brand strategy. It’s a very different culture to deliver strategic excellence over time, guiding clients and many different people, building a brand along a red thread for many years vs tactical assignments."

    - Good point Scott, but increasingly more important these days isn't your "long term experience leading brand strategy" but rather how well you understand the ethnographic and cultural impact of the "digital" on a brand. Most brands we at POKE play with today are just looking to be more relevant - and assimilate their product or service into a consumer lifestyle that often just doesn't want, need or understand the brand or service anymore.

    This snowball is growing and picking up speed.

    Tangerinet Toad

    Ian: You guys need to hire creatives who understand branding and who can do TV and print.

    Which is starting to happen- especially with the kids coming out of school.

    Right now too many clients still see you as executors. But this will change. Pretty much any minute.

    Here's my prediction (from this summer) for how/when/why it will happen:

    http://tangerinetoad.blogspot.com/2007/07/toad-predicts.html

    ian

    Tangerine Toad...we already have :) It's been an initiative going on here for quite some time. As a matter of fact, it's a requirement for Creative Directors who join this company.

    Tangerine Toad

    That's great to hear Ian.

    My current gig has me running the digital side of things, though my background is in general advertising, and it helps.

    But it's going to take a while for the prejudice to disappear. Check out this cartoon I found last week, which does a great job of illustrating the relationship b/w online and offline CDs

    http://www.transnationalblueblood.com/ADMAN3/ad3_COVER.html

    (No idea who the author, Pete Johnson, is - a friend turned me on to the cartoon and he said he'd accidentally stumbled upon it.)

    Enjoy,

    TT

    Fantan

    Pete's an ACD at Tribal DDB.

    David Polinchock

    We posted this on our blog a few days ago about the debate, but I originally wrote it about a year ago during a discussion on the value of WOM programs:

    My final comment is this. This artificial debate about who's better isn't helping us at all with our clients --€” the brands that buy our services. Frankly, the amount of time that we spend arguing about which tactic is better is why we'€™re not being invited to the strategic thinking table. ALL forms of advertising have value -- based on what story you'€™re trying to tell. It's not a battle between traditional media and new media. We should be focusing our collective efforts on how we can help our clients captivate their audience, rather then on tactical ways we can help them capture their audience.

    We believe that agencies will have a greater responsibility in the future to not just help clients talk about their brands, but how to make their brands better and more valuable to their audience. We can't just use cool tactics any more. We have to help clients create relevance with their audiences.

    Kennedy Grey

    Crowdsourcing agency level creative work requires a new kind of PL silo that existing agencies are not built around. But i have a question: to pollinate a field of flowers (i.e. customers), do you want one GIANT bee (rhymes with "WPP") or do you want a millions of hungry little bees?

    ian

    I'd probably opt for a bunch of bees, and only if I could make sure that all those bees weren't pollinating the same flower over and over and over again.

    But why would you need to crowdsource, if an integrated agency could handle it all?

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